Reverend Roy Magee, who
helped broker the loyalist ceasefires in the
1990s, has died.
Quote: "He had the ear of ministers
and senior officials in the Republic of Ireland
and often spoke at seminars and conferences in
the South. In the North, by contrast, he came to
be seen as out of touch by loyalists still
respected but no longer thought of as one of
themselves.
It was the price he paid for joining the
peace process Establishment. "
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/obituaries/article5662500.ece
Death of Rev Roy Magee at 79
Monday, 2 February 2009 20:08
Tributes have been paid to the Presbyterian
peace-broker, Rev Roy Magee, who has died aged
79.
Roy Magee has died, as you will
have heard on the news in Northern Ireland and in
the Republic of Ireland
My name is Jim Cairns and I
would like to inform the reader about some
interesting facts about Roy Magee, facts you wont
read in the Belfast Telegraph or in the Dublin
press!.
I first made contact by
telephone with the then Reverend Roy Magee in
1995. I was living in Kilkenny ROI at the time,
having litterally fled from Northern Ireland
after being involved in a paramilitary incident
in South Antrim near the village of Doagh. To cut
a long story short, I contacted Magee because I
thought the UVF had "mistakenly"
targeted me and tried to abduct and murder me on
the 14th August 1994 and I tried to get that
issue ironed out using Magee as an intermediate
between myself and the UVF. (NB: Magee was known
at that time to be an intermediate for victims
and the UVF paramilitaries.)
You can read a more detailed
account in this article: My
Story, \Witchcraft in Ireland\
At first I thought the reason
why the UVF targeted me was simply a mistake or
because I have enemies within the UVF; and I can
assure you I have several, even though I am a
protestant, but I am not a true blue loyalist!
Magee contacted the UVF after I
phoned him and told him my story, but they told
him they HAD NOT attempted to abduct me! I simply
did not believe the UVF! Anyhow, I got no
satisfaction with Magee and the UVF but then
something else happened in Kilkenny, which was of
immense interest to Rev Roy Magee!
I discovered a christian prayer
group in Kilkenny, which was behaving in a very
suspicious manner! I came to one hard fast
conclusion after a lot of contact with a born
again christian in Kilkenny and that conclusion
was that this Christian prayer group was in fact
a satanic cult!
I phoned Rev Roy Magee from
Kilkenny and whilst discussing my first problem
about the UVF, I told Magee about this so-called
Born Again Christian prayer group in Kilkenny and
I told him I met one particular member of this
"prayer group" called David Ryan and
this person was talking and behaving like no
christian I had ever met during my lifetime! This
so-called Born Again Christian espoused the
ethics of a fascist and the morals of a
profligate! I also told Magee about a so-called
"counsellor"
(who operated from a private
house in Kilkenny one day a week , on other days
he held "clinics" in Castledermot and
in Portlaoise)
called "Dick Moore who
informed me that "witches" often
attended his "prayer meetings"! Magee
became excited at my information and he asked me
to send him all information on this strange
"christian" group to his home in East
Belfast; which I did. I learned later that Magee
had passed my information to contacts he had in
the then RUC (Royal Ulster Constabulary). However
the next time I phoned Magee he was not friendly
disposed to me! Someone had ridiculed my
"information"; someone in the RUC! I
got these negative vibes from Magee for months
afterwards and it was obvious the RUC had given
this "Born Again prayer group" a clean
bill of health; even though, I later discovered,
that there were several people with strong Irish
Republican links (IRA) in this "christian
group, strange as that may seem!
Now, most people, such as
myself, might just think; why would hardened IRA
types be interested in the ethics of christianity
- given that genuine christians espouse meakness,
turning the other cheek, and believe murder is
anti christian! Things such as this passed my
mind and I believe most people would ask
themselves - why are so many people, with
"questionable pasts", calling
themselves christians? I certainly questioned the
genuiness of several of these Kilkenny Born Again
christians when I heard their take on the Bible,
which was the inverse or different from the
christianity I had been taught from childhood!
I was annoyed that Magee had not
taken my information seriously because by that
time I was very uneasy about this so-called
"christian prayer group" in Kilkenny.
But as time went by I discovered a lot more stuff
about them, which was astounding! I discovered
that they described themselves as
"Charismatics" and sometimes called
their group the Pentecostal Church.. I discovered
this cult had branches all over the Republic of
Ireland and one strange fact was: they called
themselves "born again catholics"! You
see, I grew up close to the Church of Ireland (my
father was the verger in St Johns C of I in
Whitehouse County Antrim) and 2 of my sisters
called themselves christians.So I know a bit
about protestantism or the Reformed Churches
(reformed or rebels from the original christian
church - the Church of Rome! So, when I heard
that these strange Born Again christians called
themselves Born Again catholics - this seemed to
contradict all that a reformed church stood for!
In the Reformed Churches such as Presbyterianism
and even the Cof I, a member of these churches
cannot have any truck with the Roman Church and
the same applies for members of the Roman
Catholic faith. You have to be Roman Catholic or
you have to be a rebel - a member of the reformed
church! I was to discover later that this strange
Born Again cult almost certainly has its roots in
the USA and has spread across the world since the
beginning of the "evangelical" crusades
in the 1960s/1970s! However this type of
"evangelical christianity" has its
detractors even within the broader evangelic
community, especially in the USA.
Quote: In the 1960's a new
movement took shape, sharing the basic doctrines
of Pentecostalism but advocating a "stay
in" rather than a "come out"
policy with regard to church affiliations. This
movement is commonly known as the "Charismatic
Movement." It involves not only
various Protestant churches but Roman
Catholic churches as well. In fact,
if one is able to "speak in tongues" or
if he has experienced a "healing," he
is accepted by the Charismatics with little or no
regard to his church affiliation or doctrinal
deviation. When you hear Roman Catholics talk
about how their "baptism in the Holy
Spirit" has given them a greater love for
the Mass, you know that this cannot be attributed
to the Holy Spirit, but rather to a false spirit
See here: Read the full article
in this link which is from a US based evangelical
group which warns of the dangers of Charismatic
and the Pentecostal evangelical born again
christian "churches"!
The
Charismatic Movement Is Dangerous - Watch Out For
It
The
Charismatic Movement Is Dangerous ...Watch Out For It!